167 - Connection As Currency

Stephen Seidel is a TEDx keynote speaker and media entrepreneur who drives cultural alignment and authentic leadership. As founder of the award-winning Seidel Agency and coach to changemakers, he draws on 25 years in PR, media, and marketing to help leaders rewrite their stories, leveraging connection as currency. A best-selling author, podcast creator, and co-founder of the men’s collective Gents Journey, Stephen blends humor, heart, and actionable tools to inspire resilient teams and lasting change.

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Did You Know  0:00  
Did you know as a relationship driven species, having loving connections in our lives can actually boost our self esteem and help us feel better about ourselves? 

Intro  0:10  
Hello, action taker. Welcome to Live Blissed out, a podcast where I have inspirational and informational conversations with business owners and subject matter experts to help you get the scoop on a variety of topics. Tired of hesitating or making decisions without having the big picture. Want to be in the know, then this is the place to go. I'm your host, Marisa Huston, helping you achieve Blissed through awareness and action. So let's get to it. Steven Seidel is a TEDx keynote speaker and media entrepreneur who drives cultural alignment and authentic leadership. As founder of the award winning Seidel agency and coach to change makers, he draws on 25 years in PR media and marketing to help leaders rewrite their stories, leveraging connection as currency, a best selling author, podcast creator and co founder of the men's collective gents journey. Stephen blends humor heart and actionable tools to inspire resilient teams and lasting change. 

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Disclaimer  1:24  
The information, opinions and recommendations presented in this podcast are for general information only, and any reliance on the information provided in this podcast is done at your own risk. This podcast should not be considered professional advice. Steve, welcome to the podcast.

Stephen Seidel  1:38  
Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor to be here.

Marisa Huston  1:41  
Same here, and I'm looking forward to our conversation. I always like to start out by letting our listeners know why they should listen to us. What exactly are we covering today, and why does it matter?

Stephen Seidel  1:51  
Sure, absolutely so for myself, my mission is connection is currency. I'm a recovering people pleaser, but through my years, 20 to 25 years, I've been able to really put together a really solid message that's helping a lot of people. And at the end of the day, I feel like anybody listening your story matters, and our goal is for you to realize that you truly matter. Your story matters and it can impact people across the globe. And so what we do is we create a win, win, win, a win for you, a win for your company and a win for your community.

Marisa Huston 1  2:19  
That's my total philosophy, and that's why I'm super excited to have this conversation. It sounds so like normal, in the sense that you think, Well, isn't this logical? But you know, even me, thinking back 20 years ago, when I started my business, I didn't know a lot of these things. I didn't really know how to set up a win, win situation with people. It was always about the formalities. You talk to somebody, you give them your business card, vice versa. And it's more along those lines. But what I discovered very quickly is that it really is about relationships, connecting with people. And to be honest, it becomes so much fun, whereas if you look at it from a transactional perspective, it almost drains you. You feel like the energy coming out and you're saying, I don't want to do this.

Stephen Seidel  3:00  
You know what? I mean? Yeah, at the end of the day, I think play is really important. That's one thing that, when I work with, you know, the founders and startups and organizations, we want to find that sense of play. And if it's fun, it gets done. Ideally, you can incorporate that at your business and find little areas where, when people don't have to come to work, they get to go to work. But I totally agree, if it's fun, it gets done. And we want to be playful in that too.

Marisa Huston 1  3:21  
That's such a memorable way of thinking of it, and not just fun and done. But I think we also tend to over complicate everything. I was actually talking to somebody the other day, and a lot of times we put off these connections because we dread certain aspects of it, like, oh gosh, I zoom all the time, and I don't want to zoom anymore. It means I got to get dressed and I got to look nice and I got to turn on the camera. So you have to ask yourself, How do I simplify it and still make that connection and not stop myself from moving forward simply because I'm not happy with that process. So what's wrong with the good old fashioned phone? Pick it up and talk to somebody like we're talking now? Yeah, totally.

Stephen Seidel  3:57  
I think it's hard to get up and talk, but I think if you can settle in and really just put your attention on the other person. That's one thing that I learned a lot when I was performing and really be curious, you know, replace judgment with curiosity and ask simple questions. By then we get out of our head and into our heart. So that's typically how we start.

Marisa Huston 1  4:13  
And I think that sometimes these types of conversations allow me to hear you and really understand what you're saying, because I'm not distracted, because a lot of times when you're talking to somebody face to face, you're looking at them, you're trying to make eye contact, there's the background, what they're wearing, all of those things. And I find that when I'm talking this way, where we have no cameras, and we're just having a heart to heart, I can really, really connect with you in a deeper level. That's at least my experience.

Stephen Seidel  4:38  
Yeah, I couldn't agree more oftentimes, and I'm as guilty as any you know somebody's talking and you've gone on to the new subject, or you want to input your part, instead of really trying to settle in and listen and not really know where the conversation may take you. We may end up talking about pasta or who knows what, how sunny it is. That's always the joy of having a really heartfelt conversation. So thank you.

Marisa Huston 1  4:58  
Yeah, absolutely. You know, we're talking about connection as currency, and I think we tend to generalize words a lot to say connection. What exactly does that mean? What does it comprise? And how do we connect on a deeper level so that we can achieve that win, win scenario you were talking about previously? Yeah, that's

Stephen Seidel  5:17  
A great question. I think there's a multitude of ways that we can connect. At the end of the day, when we connect, we have a sense of awareness with a sense of belonging. And if you look at any motion picture, for example, if you look at any Disney film, there's the hero. We're all hero in our own journeys, right? We're going to have problems that come into our lives. They essentially become the inciting incident. So this is Joseph Campbell's the hero's journey. I'm kind of rewording it, but at the end of the day, we have an inciting incident where there's a problem or something happens. Or something happens, and we don't feel like we have the tools necessary, and we don't feel equipped. And that's where we need to find a sense of connection. And that's typically in the Disney film, for example, there's going to be a friend or an animal or a thing that they partner along with, and they begin to realize, look, I am enough. I can do this to the world. I might be one person, but to one person, I might be the world. And that's where, when we dig in deeper on our stories and our narratives, that's one of the key aspects. Then eventually they come through the movie, they have that sense of connection, and they get to the end of Act Two in any film. This is called the all is lost, and that's where we fail. You know, we don't really get what we want. We get outside of our comfort zone. And when we fail, or we find grief, or we find uncomfortability, that's where we grow, and then ultimately, in the end of most movies, we have a happy ending where we achieve what we would want. So I think connection is currency can be appreciated in a multitude of ways. Typically what I talk about with one of my close growth friends, he talks about having your pies, which is something he does in his morning routine, connecting, physically, connecting intellectually, connecting emotionally, and connecting spiritually. And so within your work or within your relationships, those are different areas where you can take inventory and see if you're connecting physically to your own body with other people, for example, your husband or your wife. Are you connecting intellectually over conversations with books? Are you looking people in the eye? Are you asking them their name, are you connecting emotionally with your friends, your family, your mom, your dad, you know, telling them that you love them, and then obviously spiritually, making sure that we understand that there's so much more than just we're experiencing right her on earth.

Marisa Huston  7:12  
Yeah, absolutely. And I think that it's coming from a place of giving and caring more than yourself. I guess a lot of us always are looking towards ourselves and thinking, what do I need? But rather approaching it from a different perspective and saying, What can I learn today? What can I give today? How can we set the stage for all of us to benefit? And again, I think it's a mindset shift for a lot of us, because we're just trained to be very contractual, especially in a business environment. And I find that approaching it from the perspective that you are sharing is really the most fulfilling. It's funny, like you not only enjoy the conversation, but you learn so many things from that person, and then you find so many things that you have in common, too. And it's like could be a location or a place they visited, or a hobby, and that also builds trust. That's just human nature for us, right? If somebody has something mutually in common with you, then you tend to gravitate towards them. It's just how it is. But it comes from a very authentic place. It's not contrived.

Stephen Seidel  8:11  
Yeah, one of the things I talk about when you say that commonplace is when we work with some visionaries or leaders or you're the CEO, oftentimes you're overworked, you're understaffed, and you don't find enough time for yourself, and so that's where I built my men's group so that you can have a safe community. One of the exercises that we have is to really take inventory of those things that really light you up. What do you love? What are the areas in your life where you spend the most time? Maybe it's a car, maybe it's TV shows. Maybe you love magic. The list goes on and on. But when you can take inventory of the things that you truly love and engage in then you can find ways to come from happiness instead of for happiness. And then you have that shared experience you just talked about. For example, I moved to a new city. I live in, Lexington. I came from LA So, as you might know, big change. I struggled a little bit. And my mentor said, you know, what are some things that you really enjoy to go back to, you know, having fun and that sense of play says, find something that you enjoy so that you can come from happiness instead of for happiness, and then those relationships or those friendships and that sense of connection will result, because you guys have that shared experience.

Marisa Huston 1  9:11  
Yeah, I think the big challenge that I'm seeing now, Steve is that even if you do figure that out, it's hard sometimes to find people that are willing to share it with you, because everybody now in this digital space is just running around, and something as simple as even getting on Zoom is difficult anymore, because people are wore out and they feel like there's just not enough time in the day. And so even though we now have an easier time and we have technology that helps us, we tend to get to be more anti social, and trying to set up that environment where you're doing it consistently, and you're doing it because you want to connect with other people, and you want to be a value. And it could be anything simple, like maybe having a weekly bridge game with your friends. It could be something as simple as that, but doing. It so that you get to see them, you get to check in with them. You have to put yourself in that space where it's routine for you almost have it, but you're doing it, not out of obligation, but because it's not only good for you, but it's good for them, and it's good to build those connections with other people, because we all need it.

Stephen Seidel  10:17  
Yes, connection is key. One of the things that you touched upon is that consistency and so doing it, I think the hardest challenge for a lot of listeners that you may have on here is taking the first step right what's going to happen? And this is where it goes back to that sense of story. We're often telling ourselves several stories, the movie of me, the story of myself. I'm going to go out there and they're not going to talk to me. There's a lot of narratives that are pinging around, both the narratives internally limiting beliefs I'm not good enough, or the narrative that we're sharing with others in terms of what we're delivering so that we can connect. But if you can at least take the first step, put yourself in that uncomfortability and know that nobody knows what's going to come out of it. But if you have an open mindset, much like an abundance mindset or a prosperity mindset, if you look for opportunities or you look for synergy, or you look for serendipity, then that'll take you along its path. And so we don't need to know how we're going to get there, but if you could just push yourself take the first step and then consistently do it, you'll begin to see these patterns emerging. And that's where books like atomic habits and a lot of these other books like the 5am club, if you can just continue to do it for 60 days or a finite amount of time, it'll begin to be second nature, and then all of the goodness that comes from the connection or the relationships or showing up consistently will begin to show itself within your life.

Marisa Huston  11:30  
You know, as I'm listening to what you're saying, Steve, I think that we tend to think that everybody feels the way we do about certain things, and that could be further from the truth, because we're all so different, and we view things differently, trying to find those pearls in your life. Sometimes it's the little hunt where you find the people that you want in your circle, the people that get you, but at the same time, are different enough to have fun with and learn from, essentially people who inspire you, that make you grateful to be around them. You know you can learn from them. They can learn from you, and they want it as much as you do. If you're trying to set something up and they're looking at it as they're doing you a favor, they dread it. It doesn't work. So you almost have to approach it as I know I'm going to fail a lot of times until I get that group. But once I find them, we get that group solidified, then all of a sudden I'm going to see the fruits of my labor. So it's like planting seeds, essentially, yeah, absolutely.

Stephen Seidel  12:23  
Planting seeds, whether in business or in life, we often don't see the roots that are growing from the foundation that we're building. And so when I work with leaders and business owners, I start with that foundation in your mission. And too often, we try to go towards growing the fruits and the seeds of your labor without really having a solid foundation or structure. It's really challenging to do that, and then often, you know, burnout or inconsistent results will show themselves. So for businesses, I have a forum framework. You start with your mission. Why is it that you're doing it? That's merely your foundation and the relationships that you're building? Then what's the message that I'm telling both myself and audiences? Then once we do that. We go into the media, or the actual marketing of it all, or the influence sales. It's all the same thing, marketing, sales, influence, connection. The end of the day, we're trying to impact people and inspire them. But ultimately, the last of the forums is movement. We want to create movement, both in our hearts and in our campaigns that we build.

Marisa Huston  13:18  
I call it action because, you know, we can talk a big talk, and that's really what podcasts are. We talk, but at the end of the day, it's taking what we say and actually putting it into practice that's going to give us the changes. If we're looking for change, that's what's going to initiate the change. And given that, then I really love talking to my guests about specific steps that they can take. Now that we're talking about connection, let's give our listeners a framework. Like, what does that entail? What are the key elements of creating good connection? 

Stephen Seidel  13:47  
Yeah, so this is merely my interpretation, and there's a multitude of ways to do it, but one way that I focused on it, I'm going to go back to my TEDx talk that I delivered a couple of years ago. I lost my mom due to cancer, and so when I relocated from California to Kentucky, it felt like my world was ending because I had no friends. We were living in covid. All my friends were virtual. I didn't know anybody, and my mom was sick. I had a newborn. It was the perfect storm of feeling selfless, if you will. And so that's where I created this men's group, because I needed a safe community, and that's where connection was for me, because I'd always been a connector, but I felt disconnected in so many ways. And so I talk about it in the TEDx talk as well, the hidden power of grief when we are disconnected, when we have failure, when we have grief, when we lose something, that's truly an aha moment for us to determine, oh, okay, this is for me to understand, that this is a moment where what we go through, we grow through, this is meant for me to become a better version of myself. And so connection, obviously, is what we're talking about. What I suggest is a three part framework. First, we need to essentially reconnect. What is it that drives me? What is it that I love? What is my purpose? What is my mission? What are the gifts that God has given me that I can use so that it becomes the hole in the flute that the Christ breath flows through, so it's music. How am I creating me? Music in the world that I live in. And secondly, once we reconnect to that sense of well being, to that source, to our mission, whatever it is that we do that purpose, we need to rebuild. And so oftentimes, when we're in a tough position, or we're not connected, we don't have any infrastructure in place. And so that can show up in a multitude of ways. It can show up in the relationships that you have you can rebuild amongst your community, and that's oftentimes when somebody feels disconnected, they say, Okay, I need to find something outside of myself, and then start volunteering. And that's where you're rebuilding to your community. You're rebuilding yourself. And then lastly, we want to reclaim the narrative, and we want to reclaim that sense of purpose and realize that everything that we do here on this earth, whether it's professional or personal can impact somebody, and it can change their lives for the better. And so it's up to us to own it, to understand that we may fall but when we reconnect to these skills that we have, we could become a beacon of their success, and we can share our story and inspire others to do the same.

Marisa Huston  15:55  
Yeah, that's so true. And I think that we find ourselves in a situation where, in that grief, in that experience, you sometimes look into yourself and you step away, and then you start to feel really bad and realize that the day when you wake up and you go, Wait a minute, there's other people that are having the same experience or worse. And so how can I not only help them, but how can we support each other? We need that community. We need to hear it. But I think getting to that point where you actually take that step, as you said, moving forward, that's the difficult part, that once you build that traction, and you get it established, then it becomes almost like medicine, in a way, you know, it's so relieving. It's very fulfilling. You get so much good out of it. I latched on to what you said about you never know what kind of impact you're making 100% because I can't tell you how many people that I've lost that were mentors that didn't even know I existed, but I listened to them and I followed them, and I learned from them, and then once they're gone, you know, there's like a hole in your heart thinking, oh my goodness, I'm never going to hear what they have to say again, and I would look forward to it now. I don't have that every moment is precious, and you just don't know what kind of good you're putting out in the world until you do so just do it.

Stephen Seidel  17:07  
Yeah, there's a quote. I think I mentioned it earlier. I don't know who said it. I should figure this out, but it was in my mom's kitchen. To the world, you may be one person, but to one person, you may be the world. And like we talk about in my men's group, just show up so many times you hear about the actor or the person who stumbled on a new career, and nine times out of the 10, you know, their friend brought them and they just showed up. But a lot of great things happen when you show up, especially, you know, in your life as a parent, me, being a girl Dad, I want to just show up. I want to show up for my children so they know that I'm there, that I could be trusted. And when you just show up, a lot of magic can happen. You mentioned the framework. One thing that I talk a lot about is going from good to great. Obviously, we all want to do good in this world. Part of that is being great. And I think we all have greatness within us, and sometimes we don't realize that. And so I put together a quick little acronym for great, and it embodies a lot of what we just talked about. So if you could just try to touch each of these every single day, then you're going to be the greatest version of yourself. And it's different for different for different people. And when we compare and we complain and we criticize, that's when we get into our head or into our ego. But to be great, the G stands for grateful. Like I said before, we don't have to go to work. We get to go to work. Being in the United States, we struck the lottery. We didn't grow up in a third world country. We were born here. The R stands for reflective, having these moments of prayer, of silence, where we understand that our heart beats without us even doing anything. We breathe without having to move our own lungs. The E stands for being empathetic. We need to understand when we place judgment, or somebody doesn't show up to work, or they're late, that everybody's carrying their own baggage, and we were just like them. And so if we can find ourselves in their hearts, that's a great way. And then A stands for accountable. If you say you're going to do something, then do it. Then do it. I think that goes without saying. And then lastly, it's being transformational. And again, like I talked about coming from happiness instead of for happiness, if we can surround ourselves with things that really, truly light us up, and that's where gratitude journals really help. That's where looking outside and going for walks, it'll increase your I forget the name of is it dopamine?

Marisa Huston  19:01  
Yeah, I think so, yeah, because, like, I go for walks with my husband, and it just changes you when you come back, you're just, like, so refreshed, and everything just feels wonderful.

Stephen Seidel  19:10  
Yeah? So that's it. Go from good to great. And if you can try and do that every day, you have a journal. I have a little gratitude journal. You can buy them on Amazon, and literally, they write for five minutes a day, write one thing you're grateful for, and you'll begin to see your life shifting, and hopefully your sense of well being, both at work and at home, will really begin to shift towards the positive.

Marisa Huston  19:29  
I love it. I think it's so helpful for our listeners, because they can easily remember it. So if we look at it, great, gratitude, reflection, empathy, accountability and transformation. Those are the kind of messages I think, that we can carry with us, so that when we lose our way or we forget something, we can go back to that. To your point, you know, we're here in the US, and there's so many blessings that we have, but there are a lot of people that don't have those blessings, and they don't really have a perspective outside of. At if you grow up in a different environment, what you think is not a blessing here is a blessing to somebody else somewhere else. So what I mean by that is that there's a lot of people, for example, that their priority is simply to eat and nothing else because they can't find any food anywhere. And over here, the priority might be, I just want to be able to go to school. And so the level of what you think you need is different, and that doesn't diminish one from the other, but it's important to put it in perspective, so that when you wake up in the morning, to me, I look at everything as a blessing, like I literally wake up and I go, there's another day. Oh my gosh, the sun is out. Oh, I get a cup of coffee. Oh, my goodness, I've got running water. I mean, I seriously think about that, and I say to myself, am I the only one that thinks this? I do believe there are people like me that just look at everything in awe and say, Wow, I don't take anything for granted that every little thing we have is such a blessing, and we just have to strive to make the most of it and appreciate it, because then you wake up happy and grateful, rather than thinking you want more, it's not enough, or this other person has more than me, it changes really the landscape and how you view the world.

Stephen Seidel  21:08  
Yeah, that's a great note. When we wake up, we set the tone. Oftentimes people grab the phone, they get in a reactionary mindset. But when you wake up, you don't leverage your phone. Give yourself some time, or you're not taking care of your kids, or you're not responding to things, then you really set that positive intention, and you can feel it throughout the day. You wake up, clap your hands, get it into your body. Today is going to be a great day. And you move forward, things are going to happen, but we don't know why they happen. You may get in a car accident, meet the love of your life. So today is going to be a great day.

Marisa Huston  21:34  
Yeah. And like I said, Everything happens for a reason, and I also believe that everything has good and not so good. So for example, I come from a generation where we didn't have cell phones. It just didn't exist. We didn't have the technology. We just had to make do. And so if you're driving in your car and you get a flat tire, you don't get to pick up the phone and call for help. And that was normal because that's all we had, and now we have it. And yet, with these phones, now we're saying, oh, phones are terrible. They're just ruining our lives, and they keep bothering us or whatever. But then you look at it and go, my goodness, look at all the capabilities that this little thing can do to help improve my life. So it's really about balance. You know, there's so many good things you can get out of it, but you have to know how to use it appropriately and use it in a way that it's not going to interfere with the goodness in your life. Because there's a lot of stuff that that you get out of technology, for example, but if we don't use it appropriately, then it can be a problem.

Stephen Seidel  22:26  
Yeah, I was listening to, I agree, everything in life is an instrument, right? I was listening to sad guru. He runs Inner Engineering. He was interviewed by community called Theo von, and he was just talking about how everything in life is a tool. It's an instrument, and it depends on how we use it. So a knife, it could be used. It could help cut things that we need in order to, obviously, provide for ourselves or to help in other areas. But there's a reason that whatever it is that you're using, you need to be mindful of it. There's a reason why we don't give it to children, because they don't have that mindfulness. They don't have the awareness. And so being mindful of the things that we're leveraging and using them, you know, so that they're beneficial, is a key aspect of it 100% Yeah.

Marisa Huston  23:01  
And I like to look at life like that. I look at nature and look at everything around us, and I say, you know, there's always good, not so good. And I also find that extreme sometimes cannot be a good thing, but in certain cases, it is. You know, how like we like to look up to people who are the best of the best in what they do, the best basketball player, the best tennis player, the best golfer, those people do not have a balanced life. Let's be honest. They live and breathe for whatever it is that they do, because in order to be the best, you have to do that. You have to sacrifice everything and just dedicate your life to that. And for some people, that's not a trade off. They would never want to do that, because they want that balance. They want to be able to spend time with their families, travel, do all the things that they want to do in life, because you don't know how much of it you have. But to those other people, it's like unheard of because they have to win. They have to be at the top of their game. Yet we idolize that, but we forget the sacrifice that they make to get there. Yes, it's

Stephen Seidel  23:57  
like the 20 year overnight success story. It's not how you treat your competitor when you win, but how do you treat your competitor when you lose? Competitor when you lose and when you're going through those tough moments? It's always great to see some of these Olympic competitors. The guy who was doing the four spin Ilya malanin, or whatever, I can't remember, he was predicted to win the gold medal, but he finished in eighth place, but he was celebrating the successes of the other members who won the gold, the silver and the bronze. And it's truly a test of character that he's been training for 25 plus years. He didn't win, but at the end of the day, he was celebrating the successes of others, and knew that there's still an opportunity for me in the next one.

Marisa Huston  24:31  
That's exactly it. It really is a mindset, Steve and I think that we all win. It's just a matter of what do we consider a win? Because I grew up always thinking making mistakes was not good, and so I'd always avoided and I realized making mistakes is just part of life. We have to make mistakes to be better, to learn. When you look at it as part of that process, and it's okay to do it, because it's just natural for that to happen, for you to get better, then you realize it's okay and it's a win, because I'm learning, and I figured that did. Work. Okay, I'm not doing that again. Now. I'm moving over here. I'm going to try this. It really, really has to do with how we approach it from a mental standpoint. And then just go out and do it. Go back to the basics, as you mentioned, the gratitude, reflection, empathy, accountability, transformation, great. Go back to those basics and remind yourself of that, and then try to live a life with that perspective in mind, and I think that that's going to be a really good start to giving you a fulfilling life.

Stephen Seidel  25:26  
Yeah, absolutely nobody has it figured out. We're all just fumbling through and at the end of the day, does it really matter if you talk about the people who when they're on their deathbed, obviously you've probably heard about these before, it's like, it comes down to, did you love and where you loved? Are you loved? Are you spending time with your family? Are you doing the things that you loved, love over fear? So the more that we can introduce love into our life and not feel directed or mishandled or misguided by being afraid, the better.

Marisa Huston  25:51  
I 100% agree. Steve, thank you so much for sharing this, because I think some people need to hear this. I know I did. I really enjoyed the conversation because you shared it in very simple terms. You helped us understand, like, what we should be thinking about, and then just be very cognizant of that and try to live your best life to the best of your ability. Because, to your point, we're always going to fall down, and we just have to get up and help each other. But we're meant to do that, because that's the whole point, is to help each other, and if none of us fell down, we wouldn't need help. So anybody listening right now, if everything you're saying resonates, how do they get a hold of you and learn more about what you offer?

Stephen Seidel  26:26  
Sure that's a great question on social media. I'm Steven Seidel, and Steven's actually spelled with a pH, so that's S, T, E, P, H, E, N. Last name is Seidel, so that's S, E, I, D, E, L, and then my agency is the Seidel agency.com so if you go to the Seidel agency, T, H, E, S, E I, D, E, L, agency.com/media I have a really cool tool there where anybody who's really looking to refine their message, whether or not you're small business owner or you're just trying to learn more about who you are in this world, there's four free tools where there's 1000s of journalists that are looking for experts or just individuals that are have experienced certain situations, and you can share your experience, just like I talked about earlier, in hopes that it will impact others. So you go to the side agency.com/media, and like I said, before I have a TEDx speaker, I help a lot of my founders, visionaries and franchise owners, get to the stage for TEDx talks. So if you're interested, send me a message. Would love to help you refine your message and really share it with the world.

Marisa Huston  27:26  
I really appreciate you being here. It means a lot, and I know everybody listening today got a lot out of it, so did I. So thank you again.

Stephen Seidel  27:33  
Yes. Thank you so much. Make sure you call your mom's dad best friends. Text them, let them know you love them 100%

Marisa Huston  27:39  
Thank you, Steve. 

Outro  27:41  
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