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158 - From Corporate to Calling: Mid-Life Reinvention
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Camille is a transformational leader and celebrated influencer in the field of entrepreneurship. Her mission is simple: to inspire and support others in bringing their gifts to the world.
As a Strategic Business Designer for Soul-Led Visionaries, she offers highly individualized mentoring and guidance in all aspects of business—from planning and strategy to marketing and client acquisition.
She is the founder of a global business incubator, the Natural Life Business Partnership, a Soul Inspired Business School, and a global online Learning Academy.
Camille is the leading authority on mentoring mid-life entrepreneurs to transform their wisdom and decades of experience into wealth through scalable, purpose-driven businesses. A recognized thought leader on soul-driven success, she empowers mission-driven leaders to create lasting impact and financial freedom—without compromising their values. She is also the author of three best-selling books and the visionary behind the Soul Professional Movement, for those who live in a higher vibration, have an alternative approach to business, and are here to help repair the world.
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Did You Know 0:00
Did you know that for Gen X professionals, there's a growing desire to transition into roles that offer greater autonomy and align more closely with personal values? This demographic shift is contributing to the rise in entrepreneurship among mid career individuals.
Intro 0:15
Hello, action taker. Welcome to Live Blissed Out a podcast where I have inspirational and informational conversations with business owners and subject matter experts to help you get the scoop on a variety of topics. Tired of hesitating or making decisions without having the big picture. Want to be in the know, then this is the place to go. I'm your host. Marisa Huston, helping you achieve bliss through awareness and action. So let's get to it. Camille l Miller is a transformational leader and celebrated influencer in the field of entrepreneurship. Her mission is simple, to inspire and support others in bringing their gifts to the world as a strategic business designer for soul led visionaries. She offers highly individualized mentoring and guidance in all aspects of business, from planning and strategy to marketing and client acquisition. She's the founder of a global business incubator, the natural life business partnership, a soul inspired Business School and a global online learning academy. She's also the author of three best selling books and the visionary behind the soul professional movement for those who live in a higher vibration, have an alternative approach to business and are here to help repair the world. To learn more. Visit soulprofessional.com.
Disclaimer 1:28
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Marisa Huston 1:41
Camille, welcome to the podcast. So happy to have you here.
Camille L. Miller 1:45
Oh, I'm so excited to be here. Thank you so much for having me.
Marisa Huston 1:48
That's what this is all about, and I can't wait to share with our listeners the wonderful insights that I know you're going to bring to the table. With that in mind, why don't you start by sharing with our listeners what we're going to be talking about and why it matters to them.
Camille L. Miller 2:02
I'm thinking corporate to calling the midlife reinvention, which is really where I'm focusing my business and my efforts right now, people that have climbed the corporate ladder did what they thought that they should do in life, and then got to the top and went, Wow, this doesn't make my heart sing. And now they're kind of reinventing themselves, thinking, what do I want to do for the next chapter of my life? Like, what is the purpose and the legacy that I want to leave in the world? And that's where I focus my time and energy now. And hopefully we can talk a little bit about that today.
Marisa Huston 2:31
I think that's going to resonate with a lot of people listening today. Oftentimes, we do things in the beginning out of responsibility, and now we get to a point in our lives where we're like, I know what I need to do, I know how to do it, but now I want to do the things that really make me happy and be able to achieve that success while still doing what I enjoy.
Camille L. Miller 2:51
Absolutely and I think this is a great time to say that our experience in the world and our wisdom and the decades that we've had is our greatest asset. Sometimes people think like they're too old to make a change, or I can't do that now, or I'm in my 50s, or whatever that looks like for them. Is such a limiting belief, because this is the greatest time in our life, and most of us have built the wealth and we have the wisdom, and it's now like, Okay, I'm so much more than I was even the company that I run now that I started in my late 40s, I'm a different person now, and I'm better at it. So things that didn't work 10 years ago, it was because I wasn't who I am today. Like I would never give up a decade of my wisdom for anything, right? Every decade, it's so much better.
Marisa Huston 3:39
You are so spot on. And honestly, I believe that we kind of reinvent ourselves every 10 years. It's like whenI look back at every decade I go, I'm a totally different person from I was 10 years ago or 10 years before that. You know what I mean. And I think it's important too that our listeners reflect on what you just said, which is, our time is done, like I don't have anything more to give, or I'm too old to keep doing this, or anything else, for that matter, and there's so many people that do, and they just don't realize it, or they think that it might be more out of reach than it really is,
Camille L. Miller 4:11
Agreed, yeah, and to that, I say it's never too late to reinvent yourself.
Marisa Huston 4:16
Oh, 100% and I think that people think reinvent it can be exhausting, because you've already kind of gone through a huge part of your life, right? And you've gone through so much, and then you start to think, oh my gosh, if I had to do all this again, it's too much work. I don't want to do it, but we really have to look at it as more. It's time to play. We can play and still reinvent ourselves and still achieve success. We can have all those things, but in a different capacity, because now there's different circumstances in our lives for the most part,
Camille L. Miller 4:45
Yeah, and we're all uniquely different. And I think that's where it comes into, like, leaning into your uniqueness, because nobody can be you more than you. You don't have to pretend. And I think as we get older, we don't pretend to be anything else, because pretending is exhausting. It comes from the. Place of authenticity. Now it's genuine, real. We put boundaries around ourselves. We know what's possible. That's what we want to lean into in this next chapter, whenever that chapter starts for whoever, and I think it continuously grows who I was in my 40s and my 50s, and I'm about to go into my 60s, and now I'm planning for that next decade?
Marisa Huston 5:21
Yes, at what point do people wake up one day and go, this is the day, almost like you're in a crossroads, like you're thinking, I need to move in a different direction. But I'm not really sure why or how. What's that moment for people? Can you walk us through that?
Camille L. Miller 5:36
Well, I will say it's different for everybody, but it's usually been in the brain for about two years of they've been thinking about it, but they're like, well, people don't do it that way, or I don't have the capacity, or the know how, or whatever it is right, or this isn't the right time. Or they stack goals, like, when I do this, then I'll do this called Dream stacking, so they can never, kind of get out of their own way. And then something happens. There's a moment of reality where they just go, Okay, it's now. It's that moment of decision, and nobody can act before they decide that this is what I'm going to go to now, right? And then they create a new vision for themselves, and that's what they start to work for. That's where they start to change the process. My vision changes all the time, but there was a time, I think last decade, where I was like, I want to live in Italy, but I'm like, I got to start moving towards that. So I started taking Italian lessons. Then I started to explore. Then I went to Italy, and you have to start to move towards whatever that dream is. Now I got there and I talked to a few people, and I decided Italy is not where I'm going to end up, but I had to go through that. I always had this dream that I would, in my retirement, be a professor in a college. Like, that's how I was going to end my year. That was the end. I was like, Well, if this is going to be my dream, I better start applying, and let's get in first, then I can decide where I go from there. But let me start that dream. So I started, I applied to, I don't know, 26 different universities. I got one offer, and that's where I went, right? It ended up being perfect for me, because everything's always working out. And I taught for a semester when, God, this sucks. I do not want to be a teacher in a college, but I loved teaching, so it kind of just replayed in my mind, but I had to go through that to decide what my next vision or dream would be. Through that experience, I ended up opening a business school that was right and in alignment for me and what I wanted to do in my future. I really want to teach midlife executives or professionals to go into business. I was teaching MBA student. Now I just teach the MBA curriculum in my own business school with that soulful flair, right? Because I do things differently. That's my brand. That's what I do. But I had to go through that.
Marisa Huston 7:51
Yeah, and it sounds like a lot of us experience this. So you need clarity. And in order to achieve clarity, you need to understand exactly what it is that you're heading towards. So just based on your examples, right? You have a preconceived notion about something. It sounds wonderful on paper. It sounds wonderful when you see somebody else doing it, and they seem so happy, and you're like, Well, I want that too. And then you get into it and you realize this does not fit me. I'm glad you shared that example, because for me, it's always been if there's an idea in my head that I am interested in pursuing the very first thing I do is I literally talk about the pros and cons, and I talk about what I want versus the reality of that job or that situation. So for example, if let's say I wanted to be a teacher, one of the things I would ask myself is, what are the requirements of being a teacher? I have to adhere to a schedule. I've got to drive to the school, typically, I've got to stand up a lot. I've got to do a lot of talking, you know, all of those things that are, you know, a given for the job. And then I look at it on the flip side and say, are those things, things that I want to do? And if I'm checking a lot more boxes, saying, No, I don't want to drive, no, I don't want a schedule, no, I don't want to stand up and all those things, then immediately I can already eliminate them to be happy teaching. So I think we all approach it from different angles.
Camille L. Miller 9:08
Yeah, and that's a good way to do it. So when I work with clients to design their next business, because I work with entrepreneurs first, I always ask them, like, if you were to win the lottery today, what would tomorrow look like? Because they answer it, but I always let them make two columns of something you want to see in your next chapter and things you don't want to see, because what you don't want to see are non negotiables. Sometimes it's, you know, I want the ability to travel or don't want to work weekends anymore. I don't want to work fart like Whatever it looks like, and knowing what that is. So it's very, very clear as we decide in that next chapter, what that looks like. So those are the pros and cons. Those are, do I want this? Do I not want this? Because from past history, we kind of know what we want and don't want anymore. It's kind of a fun place to be, because we get to make those decisions. A lot of times. When we're younger, we don't get to make those decisions, because life happens, and there's things that you have to do to get forward. To where you're going, but usually midlife, you've made it, and now you get to make some good decisions in life.
Marisa Huston 10:06
Yeah, and to your point, we got that wisdom. We know better. We know ourselves better. We're kind of more comfortable in our own skin because we've been through our own life experiences. But I still think a lot of us have that innate sense of comparison. So you look at other people, and you say, Oh, they have that vacation house in the mountains, or they do a lot of traveling, or they do these things. And you say, I don't think I'm there, and now I feel like a failure. Or maybe you want it, or you think you want it, but you can't for whatever reason. And then you start to doubt yourself, sometimes even feel sorry for yourself and say, What have I done wrong? Or maybe it's just over for me. And the reality is, oftentimes, what we think is better isn't that we're actually living the life we already want to live. We just want to enhance it a little bit, make it more in line with something that we're more passionate about. We had to do these things before, and now we have a little more playroom to go in a direction that we might have never considered before?
Camille L. Miller 11:04
Yes, absolutely. And I think especially when you and I were growing up, we're both Gen Xers, we were taught like a very narrow vision of what the world looked like. Remember, it was before the internet. So we didn't know all these global choices that we have today. Our view of what was possible was so much smaller. So as we grow, there's so many more things that we can consider. There's more jobs in the world. My job is literally global, all over the world, but I do it from my home or wherever I am in the world. That wasn't even a possibility, unheard of, and women was just starting to work. I had a stay at home mom, all my friends would stay at home moms, you know. So it was a very different world,
Marisa Huston 11:46
So different. And in fact, if we're going to even just look at that, the fact that you and I are talking right now, and being able to broadcast this to anywhere in the world is mind boggling, because when I went to college, one of my majors was, believe it or not, radio they happened to offer it, and I was like, Oh, this is fun. I'm gonna do this. And I play 80s music when everybody else was sleeping, and it didn't matter, I was just there having a good old time. And I thought, I'm never, ever going to be able to be in a radio station doing this ever again. So I'm just enjoying the moment. And here, I mean, it did take some time to learn, and you have to be open to change, because there is a lot to learn when you start a podcast, you have to understand equipment and how to set it up and how to sequence it, and what that's even gonna look like for you. But I was willing to do it, and the fact that I can is just amazing. I still, to this day, cannot believe that I can sit here and talk to a person anywhere in the world and share their knowledge with other people, and it just gets me so excited. I can't believe it.
Camille L. Miller 12:52
Yeah, I bet people like you said are taking walks and listening to podcasts, like where we used to watch TV and we could only watch it the day the show was on, and we'd all stay home that day to watch whatever shows on.
Marisa Huston 13:04
We would call our friends and go, Oh no, our show's on at eight o'clock, and if I miss it, I'm never gonna see it again. There was a time where we couldn't even record, we didn't have VHS or anything like that, and it's like, you miss it and it's gone forever.
Camille L. Miller 13:17
And now we're like, serial listeners, right? Like, I'm watching something on Netflix. I've never had Netflix, and I decided to get it so I wanted to watch a few .things, and now I'm just watching the whole thing, right? I'd watch one show, all of the seasons at a time, binge watch. But podcasts are the same way. I find a podcast, I like. I listen to it all the time. I listen to my books on tape. Now, like life has just changed so much.
Marisa Huston 13:39
Oh, so much. They set things up to be like a cliffhanger, because they knew you had to wait a whole week to watch what's going to happen. And nowadays that's not the case if you notice and you watch a show. It's more of a continuation. They don't really do cliffhangers. It's more of like, okay, now they went to this island. Now we're going to continue. But it's not like this big mystery, like they used to make this intense thing, like, what's gonna happen? Because people knew there was this intense waiting time between shows, and now we don't have that.
Camille L. Miller 14:07
Yeah, like, who shot JR and the whole summer, everyone wait. I didn't even watch the show, but everyone was wondering, right?
Marisa Huston 14:14
Yes, the whole summer, and I didn't watch it either. But believe me, I heard about it because everybody was waiting so funny. And I think that if you're born in this generation now, the younger generation that has never experienced life without social media, all these things that we're provided with, now, it's very hard to imagine, if you think about it. Camille, you and I, let's think about our grandparents or even our parents, when they tell us stories about what they didn't have? You think, Wow, you mean you didn't even have a car. You mean you didn't have a microwave, you know? And we're looking at it, going, how is that possible? And then the kids today are going, you mean, you didn't have a cell phone, and you had those phones with the little cords that were stuck on a wall, and you didn't even know who was calling you, like you had to pick it up and find out. And to them, it's like, what is that? And so it's a very different world when you haven't experienced it. From a Gen X standpoint, I think our generation has had the most transition from that world to technology. We lived the whole experience from nothing to where we're at today.
Camille L. Miller 15:15
I think every generation has a big one. When I think of my grandmother's generation, born in 1902 they didn't even have cars, you know. They had horse drawn carriages that brought the vegetables to the house. And so they saw a lot. You saw a man get on the moon. But I think every generation has their thing, you know? And yeah, for us, it was technology. We definitely went through a technology.
Marisa Huston 15:38
Yes, that's what I meant. Technology like going from only being able to talk to your neighbor or the people in school or the people in your community, and then we were the generation now that experience going from that to be able to talk to anyone in the world.
Camille L. Miller 15:52
Absolutely. And when I think of my kids, generation, who were all born in the 2000s their whole life has been global, because their entire life, they had access on a global plane, right? They think globally. They don't think country by country, as a Gen X American. We really didn't recognize a lot of other things. We just thought everyone was American, right? We never really saw much, a much different world.
Marisa Huston 16:17
Yes, and I find that people who aren't in that space. And believe me, there's still a lot of people who don't accept technology. They don't even want to have a cell phone, or they don't want to do those things, and they're just living what they like to call the real world, like, you know, old school, you know, maybe out in a rural area or very close to family and community. Those people are still in that space where they're like, I'm from this town. I can trace it back to hundreds of years. This is where we're from, and whatever happens outside of that, I don't care, because this is my world, but we all get to live it now, whereas in the past, we didn't have a choice. We had to be in the community because there wasn't anywhere else to be. And so that's the big shift that's taken place. And to your point, with your kids, you said 2000 so I'm guessing they're like Gen Z, maybe they couldn't help but be global, because that's what they've been exposed to from very early on.
Camille L. Miller 17:07
Yeah. I mean, I think every generation brings us further along in a good way.
Marisa Huston 17:12
Oh, absolutely. I don't know about you, but I always love learning, discovering things, getting different perspectives. And then part of the reason why I love talking to you, because we can do this, we can look at it from different angles, but at the same time, we have a lot in common. We look at things from different perspectives as well. And so that's part of the excitement. When you say you want to help people in this space. What's the outcome that gets you all excited to get up in the morning and help somebody do this? What's driving you?
Camille L. Miller 17:42
Yeah, I love putting all the puzzle pieces together. My mission is to help other people get their gifts to the world. That's what drives me every single day, because I believe if I just amplify the amplifiers, there's a ripple effect of my work. So if I can help you bring your gift to the world, whatever that is, your unique genius that only you have and possess at this time, and I can help you create a business and allow others to learn about your work. That creates a ripple effect, because then that person help more people to the more people I help get their work to the world, the more people they help. So that's what keeps me going. And I believe that people have such unique geniuses and great gifts. I work in a very soulful place, but it's also that blending of science and soul, that blending of the very logical and the very spiritual, where I think I have a unique gift and I can see what others can't right. I can put it all together. I work with such unique individuals, people that are in very structured jobs, like doctors and scientists and lawyers and CPAs, a lot of educators, federal employees right now, but they have this spiritualness to them and this very purpose driven life that they saying. You know, this has always meant something to me. I want to change what I do. Sometimes it's doctors from Western medicine going to alternative methods or living a more holistic life because of something they've learned or have done. Sometimes it's educators that are also intuitive or psychic or they want to do something there. You know, there's health coaches like there's so many people, you know, I've had CPAs that have taken their financial worlds and work with sustainable companies because that's their belief. So they just kind of go into these niches that are really spectacular, just for them. So there's nothing that we can't design. And that's what kind of keeps me going. You know, I have a client that I'm working with right now that I thought, like, I don't know if I can do this, like, this was a big one and had a very successful, high profile job, and I'm like, okay, and he was telling me the gifts that he has in the world. And I was like, I don't know if I can do this, but there was something just saying, Okay, I gotta also work with this person, because I'm so intrigued and how this is all gonna play out, and putting this new business. Us together is just kind of neat. It's like one of my clients said to me that it's like they had all the pieces of the puzzle, but they couldn't see the whole picture to put it together. And that's really where I come in. I can put all of those puzzle pieces together. So your wisdom is creating wealth. So many of us have so much wisdom, and many times we don't even see it as a strength, because we've done it all our lives, or it's come so naturally. But if you have an intuitive gift or something else, some like I have doctors that have become sound healers, if you have this gift, it's how do we incorporate it into what you already know to be true? And so many times, there's misconceptions and myths around people don't do it that way, or I can't make money doing that just because they have a special gift. Maybe they shouldn't be asking money for it. So all of those different things and misconceptions that I actually kind of love to debunk and go, Well, that's not true. That's a limiting belief. Like, where did that come from? Let's see what we could do.
Speaker 1 21:00
Yeah, and sometimes we need to hear it from somebody else too. We're in our own mind, and we're talking ourselves out of it, or maybe even hyping something up more than we should. And having that other person who's been there, who's experienced it, and can listen to you and can also give you their perspective, is so helpful. And I guess, as you were saying, that the thing that came to my mind is untapped potential, because they've already achieved a lot in their lives, but there's a lot of untapped potential that they have. Not a lot of times they may not even know what that is, or they may think they know, and then realize that's not it. It's important to start with that understanding and be willing to try things and experiment and tweak until you get to a point where you're comfortable, then the fun really begins. Because once you've finally identified what it is and what you're going to drive with, then you have to now really make it happen.
Camille L. Miller 21:52
Yeah, absolutely. And a lot of times it takes inner work. I always say it's the inner work that creates the outer success. It's figuring out, what are those limiting beliefs, were they coming from? And how do I overcome them so I could be courageous and move forward? Because if you believe you're worthy, then things come to you. It's right. A lot about the law of attraction. When you believe in your own greatness, you show greatness in the world. You show up as great, and other people believe it too.
Marisa Huston 22:18
It really is awareness, because awareness sounds like such an easy word, like, oh, okay, I know, but we don't it's going back to your example of moving to Italy. You didn't know until you tried it, and then you realize this isn't what I thought it was going to be. Nothing against Italy, but it's just not what I expected. And so now I'm going to shift gears. And so sometimes you also have to be willing to say there's a little smorgasbord of things that I'm interested in, and let me dip my toe in a few things and try them out and see which one is the best fit for me before I commit. And having these conversations and thinking about things and trying them out is the entire process, but then being able to do it with someone like you who can know how to guide people in the direction, ask the right questions, make them think in a different way, then it just makes the process a lot easier. Not to mention, you don't feel like you're alone. A lot of times we just feel alone like we're in our heads and we're going this where I want to go, but I've no one to talk to.
Camille L. Miller 23:10
Yeah, absolutely. I rarely do one on one work anymore, because I found when I work in small cohorts of like three or five people that are building together, that I could match them and their experience is actually exponential, because they have that tight knit closeness of other people are doing it too, like we're going through this together. We're building our confidence together. We're figuring it out together, and they're much more successful.
Marisa Huston 23:35
And you get four other people with different perspectives, so it's almost like a bonus. You get even more people in, but you get one leader. You lead them, but then there's five people or whatever in the group that can kind of also share amongst themselves, different perspectives that just do nothing but help.
Camille L. Miller 23:52
Yeah, all from different industries. Usually at this point, I've been doing this for 10 years. It's I have a decade of experience designing in in every industry you can think of, but I'm very specifically in professional services, though. So services, not products, small companies, I usually do people that are under a million dollars, and we're creating from this place of uniqueness. And in my what I call my business accelerator, we spent three weeks just diving deep into what makes you so unique in the world that there is no competition, and we build from there. Because everyone has that point, everyone has that specialness. We just have to find it.
Marisa Huston 24:29
Completely agree. You know, it's just not one of those things you even think is possible. You're so busy living life, running around, doing all the responsibilities every day, and then you get to a point where you have these things in the back of your head, but you don't even know how to pause, how to come up with some sort of strategy for moving forward. Anybody listening out there who resonates with what we're saying will know that there are programs like yours that are designed to help them figure that out, that they don't have to be alone, and that they're. Of people that are going through the same thing, and that's so comforting and so helpful.
Camille L. Miller 25:03
Yeah, I have definitely risen to Chief Strategy Officer for most of these small businesses. But I love it that's staying in my lane of joy.
Marisa Huston 25:12
Anybody listening right now, they're thinking, I need to talk to Camille. I love her message. I think this is where I want to go. I want to get started with a plan. What do people do? How do they reach out to you, and how do they learn more about what you do?
Camille L. Miller 25:25
Yeah, so two of the very best ways anyone can connect with me on LinkedIn, that's where I am. You know, in social media, it's Camille l Miller because there's a lot of Camille millers, you'd be surprised. And the other way is through my website, soul, s, o, u, l, professional.com and you can learn about me, you can learn about the community, you can learn about the soul professional movement. And you can join our free networking, our free classes. I'm also on YouTube, where I give free classes every month, and I post them. So I would always say, start at the website. Join us for free. You can reach out to me, personally. I have the sole professional business school, and I also have the Online Learning Academy. So lots of different ways.
Marisa Huston 26:06
People always ask me, what I enjoy most. What I enjoy most is sharing, because I could have a cup of coffee with you, or we could just have a private zoom call. We could do whatever we wanted and have a conversation, but I feel like there's a missing element to it, because I'm learning so much from you. Why would I want to keep it for myself? I want to share it with the world. And that's really where I get excited. I look at it and go, I cannot believe we can do this. I can't. It's just incredible. I can't. Thank you enough. Camille, I'm so grateful. Everybody's busy. We're all running around. And when listeners come in and listen, when guests come in and take the time to share their insights and knowledge with us, I can't tell you how grateful that makes me feel. So thank you for being here.
Camille L. Miller 26:49
And thank you for interviewing me and taking your time to you know do all you do on your end so that more people could hear me.
Marisa Huston 26:55
Thanks, Camille, I appreciate you.
Camille L. Miller 26:58
I appreciate you as well.
Outro 27:00
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